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Anil Makam-On Making Sense Of Diagnostic Tests, Defending Unbounded Clinician Excellence, & How Med Students Can Avoid Deskilling in the A.I. Era
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Anil Makam-On Making Sense Of Diagnostic Tests, Defending Unbounded Clinician Excellence, & How Med Students Can Avoid Deskilling in the A.I. Era

Dr. Anil Makam examines a male patient with a stethoscope at Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital.

“Anil Makam, MD, MAS, is a hospital medicine physician and nationally recognized health services researcher whose work sits at the intersection of hospital medicine, aging, and post-acute care. He is a passionate clinician educator and is well known for his work in evidence-based medicine (EBM), critical appraisal, and high value care. In this conversation, we cover a wide range of topics in EBM, diagnostic thinking, and A.I. in medicine.”

- Taken from Dr. Makam’s UCSF profile page (https://healthpolicy.ucsf.edu/profile/anil-makam)

Show Notes:

[0:00] Introduction & the Importance of clinical epidemiology

[3:00] A Brief Introductory Exploration of Bayesian Reasoning

  • Bayesian reasoning formalizes how doctors already think intuitively

    • The formalisation allows doctors to make their reasoning explicit (a key rational norm of our profession)

  • …promotes high value care, avoids diagnostic cascades, and it’s aesthetically satisfying

  • Vibes will always be a part of clinical reasoning and bayesian reasoning can make it more explicit so that—one hopes—we can reason with it better

  • Reference Class Problem

    • The reference class problem is a fundamental issue in probability and statistics (especially when trying to assign probabilities to single events or individuals). It arises when you need to estimate the probability of something happening to a specific case, but you only have data in the form of frequencies or relative frequencies from groups/classes of similar cases.The core question is: Which group (reference class) should you use as the basis for your probability estimate? Different choices of reference class can lead to dramatically different probabilities — sometimes wildly contradictory — even though all seem plausible at first glance.

[11:30] How Did Dr. Makam Revamp his Clinical Reasoning w/ his Epidemiology?

[26:30] Why Dr. Makam believes that certain doctors can outperform the specificity and sensitivity findings on physical exam manoeuvres commonly documented in the scientific literature

[37:30] What medical education is NOT doing to prepare students for the rapid integration of artificial intelligence tools into healthcare

  • Students need to learn “human skills”

    • Leaning into Vibes based medicine (cultivating an informed prior probability, curating context (H&P), building a well calibrated clinical sense, moving beyond schemas and algorithms, and building experience in edge cases)

    • Embodied knowledge (learning to learn, loving learning, evaluative thinking skills, etc)

    • Communication

      • Building rapport

      • Communicating risk

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